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posted in Sci.Archaeology Barry Fell often went boldly where other researchers
feared to tread. He customarily took
extreme positions on these issues, but some of them seem quite valid
nevertheless. These discussions about
Barry Fell took place in late 1997. Yes, Barry was quite a character, a man
of almost mythic proportions. His tireless dedication to his work was
legendary. He often created big waves of publicity for himself and his work,
and he inspired thousands of people to follow in his path, some of whom
believed in him almost as if he was a guru of some sort. Perhaps one may say
that his ego was quite proportionate to his undoubtable talents... And he was
quite capable of cutting a few corners here and there in his research if he
was "sure as sure can be" that he had The Answer to yet another
obscure problem of ancient history. ============= Subject: Re: "America B.C." -- anything to this? From: yuku@mail.trends.ca (Yuri Kuchinsky) Date: 1997/11/10 Message-ID: <6469ls$n79$1@news.trends.ca> Newsgroups: sci.archaeology,sci.anthropology,sci.anthropology.paleo
Fell's books contain huge amounts of highly controversial data, none
of it, or very little, rigorously tested. The mainstream has never dealt with
99% of it. I would describe him as an "idea man", a kind of
researcher who never stopped with one thing at a time and researched it in
detail. He just kept suggesting more controversial ideas. He himself
expressed hope that others will deal in more depth with the stuff he
uncovered. So far, few have. I don't
think anyone, even the hard core "Fellistas", would hold that all of his claims are valid. Even among the
"diffusionists", the quesses are out as to how much of it is valid.
The consensus is perhaps that it may be around 50%. Some said that even if
10% of his claims are valid, his place in history, and in historical
scholarship will be assured. Yuri Kuchinsky in Toronto http://www.io.org/~yuku
Comparative studies of primitive art have probably been jeopardized by
the zeal of investigators of cultural contacts and borrowings. But let us
state in no uncertain terms that these studies have been jeopardized even
more by intellectual pharisees who prefer to deny obvious relationships
because science does not yet provide an adequate method for their
interpretation Claude Levi-Strauss, ANTHROPOLOGIE
STRUCTURALE, 1958
_________________________________________________________________ Trans-oceanic Connections of the
Ancient Americans. Was There A Link
with Asia and other places?
articles by Yuri Kuchinsky posted
and discussed in Sci.Archaeology
The really big news in American prehistory is the newest research that
the fabled Clovis Hunters were actually the Solutreans! Of course it has been academic dogma for a
few generations now that the Clovis Hunters were the earliest humans in
America. But this theory has now been finally completely discredited -- and
I'm surprised it took them so long... "You've probably heard of those crackpot theories about
ancient Phoenicians or Chinese in the New World. Maybe it's time to start
paying attention.." So begins the recent article by Marc K. Stengel in
THE ATLANTIC. This article is quite important because for the first time it
tries to present a different picture of ancient American history in such an
important publication that people tend to pay attention to. (It sure does
seem like some people were ahead of others when trying to call attention to
these important - but unfortunately so completely neglected by the academe -
aspects of American history. Yes, yours truly has been laboring in this
particular vineyard for quite a few years..) The Diffusionists Have Landed!
Check it out, January 2000 ATLANTIC MONTHLY ARTICLE The following items have been added in
the spring of 2000.
Was the original homeland of Polynesians really in the American Pacific
North-West? Did Polynesians really originate... in Canada? Actually, this is
what the Polynesian traditions, themselves, seem to say. Quite a few more
links to my other articles on this subject are available in this file.
General discussion about the origins of American culture, and how the
academe is not doing its job investigating the truth about them. Kuhn,
American Archaeology, and Isolationism.
This evidence about old copper is quite amazing. For such a long time,
nobody seemed interested! But now, since the Clovis Point is suggested to
have come to America from Europe ca 15000 years ago, this evidence appears to
receive plenty of new validation. Old Copper Culture in America.
Now, when there appears to have occurred a revolution in American
prehistory, perhaps a similar revolution in Polynesian prehistory is in the
cards? Isolationist anthropology seems to be on its way out! Dumbing down
Polynesia, or the betrayal of history. -----------------------------------------
Edo Nyland, working on an introduction to Linguistic Archaeology, has
informed Dr. Legner, in November 2000, that he gave Barry Fell great credit
for bringing his information to the world but did not agree with all his
translations of Ogam. His opinion is
that Gaelic did not exist at that time, but rather a language resembling
Basque. Edo Nyland has examined the Peterborough petroglyphs and especially what Barry Fell
considered Ogam, but he failed to see Ogam writing in it. Nyland noted that
Fell took some isolated characters that look like Ogam, then assigned English
letters to it, but none are connected into a sentence. If one looks at the
Ogam inscriptions that Nyland works with, you see that they form a series of
connected characters, a lineup of them, but that's not what Fell found..
Furthermore, Fell was using Gaelic to
translate but Gaelic did not exist until about 700 AD. The early Gnostics
used Basque exclusively. Nyland wishes that he could be more positive about
Fell's work. As far as he can see his true strength is in transliteration,
not translation. |